Karaya 1/72 Gloster IIIA **FINISHED**

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Karaya 1/72 Gloster IIIA **FINISHED**

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The Gloster IIIA was a reasonably successful Schnieder Cup racer, coming 2nd in the 1925 race. The bulky radiators on the leading edge being it's distinctive feature. The later IIB featured flush wing surface radiators.

Karaya have kitted several Schneider racers though they seem to have stopped have stopped producing kits, which is a shame as they are very nice.

I've been building this kit very slowly for at least a year, partially as a practice run for the more complex and delicate Karaya SeaLion II kit I have in the stash. This kit is a little more basic. There are no locating holes for the struts and the front legs were far too long. I made a few mistakes along the way - my first attempt at the floats and struts had them space too wide and too far back. It hadn't occurred to me to use beaching gear as jig! I did use some brass Strutz material to for the spacers which provided some much need rigidity to the assembly.

The decals are very thin and quite brittle, I intended to build N-195 which actually took part in the race but they broke up when trying to manoeuvre them into position. So I had to use N-194 which was the reserve a/c and use plenty of fluid to make sure they could be floated into alignment.

For the rigging I've tried EZ line for the first time. This is a bit finer than the 'Aeroclub' thread I've got and a darn sight more expensive, but I think on this diminutive model it looks right. I got it in white and so can be coloured easily using felt tip pens - the shades of grey I've got are a bit too dark (which I decided used) or too light so I've got to go and source something in between for future builds. I used UNI-Caenis mono-filament thread for the control cables, this is fine hair like in thickness and a bit tricky to handle but again suits the delicate model.

This sits nicely along side my Porco Rosso Savioa and I'm definitely going to add a few more Schneder racers to my cabinet.

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The wrong way to construct floats!

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That is really cool looking. Nice job as usual.
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Looks great, but who would build a racer with radiators like that (only the British) :-D

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Great looking model. I like the paint and markings. :grin: Lyell
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That is pretty cool James!

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So.....you've found a giant Humbrol tin to match Bruce's giant penny. Very impressive James! I don't know how the thing got off the water. Those radiators! The drag alone is bad enough but, mounting them so that they kill half the lift of the lower wing?? Looks like somebody spent too much time in the noonday sun.
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Exquisite rendition of a somewhat bizarre contraption. A racer with built-in air brakes along almost one quarter (counting both wings) of the wing leading edges?

That it actually managed to place second after the Curtiss R3C2 with its surface radiators is probably more a reflection on the rest of the competition than on the Gloster design department. ;-)

Really interesting model!

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That is very nice James, an excellent build. How small it is though, compared to the paint tinlet, it almost looks to be 1/144th!
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Cheers chaps. The kits radiators are a little oversized comparing them to the fuzzy photos available but even so! I think they probably grew during development as over heating was a constant issue with these closely cowled engines (Napier Lion in this case).

The wingspan is tiny (8.5cm), with the floats it's much longer than it is wide.
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Lovely neat finish on a tiny model. New type for me too, thanks for the history lesson!
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That looks well ace, James.

If you're showing the wrong way to build floats, what's the 'right' way?

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MerlinJones wrote:If you're showing the wrong way to build floats, what's the 'right' way?
As I said using the beaching gear as a jig. I didn't take many progress builds but it does show how the strutz material was used.
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I like that a lot!

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Brews wrote:FTR, the Lamblin radiators weren't all that bad. The difference in top speed between the IIIa and the IIIb, which had flush radiators on top and bottom port and starboard wings was about 27mph. I wonder why they didn't install the Lion inverted ... it would have at least given the pilot some sort of vision. :)
Thanks for the extra details, maybe something in the engine didn't work well upside down, though to be honest none of these machines had good forward vision.
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Top job James, liking the finished photos.

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