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PostPosted: December 15th, 2012, 2:16 pm 
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Having completed the 5 Sqn Curtis Mohawk, its done the job and whetted my appetite for the rest of the "Planes my Fatehr Fixed" project. So to that end, lets have a go at one of the main aircraft he worked on - the Hurricane IIC that was the replacement for the Mohawk for 5 Sqn in India and Burma.

Some history: 5 Sqn had been based in the far east at the outbreak of WWII and when Japan joined the war, the Sqn were moved to Calcutta in an air defence role flying Audaxes, but these were inadequete so they were replaced with the Curtiss Mohawks, which were to provide air defence and bomber escort duties for attack in northern Burma.

Eventually in mid 1943, the Mohawks were replaced with a mix of HUrricane IIC and IID. My father was transferred from 81 Sqn to 5 Sqn in November 43 and spent Christmas in Sapam, 50 miles from the border with Burma and coincidentally just down the road from the recently relocated 81 Sqn - they invited my father for Xmas dinner and I still have the menu which my dad had got his old comrades to sign. Spam was an ideal position to launch ground attacke raids into the Japanese positions along the Chindwin Rover.

So for this build I will be using this kit which I was lucky enough to pick up at the Telford Kitswap as the basis:

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Its not a terribly complex kit - its major downfall being that it has raised panel lines. I'm not sure I'm yet up to the task of rescribing... maybe this will be the time to try it out! Ther eis a lot of rivet detail that I'm loath to ruin though:

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so I'm in a bit of a quandry about this - any suggestions?

So to improve the build itself, I invested heavily in aftermarket gear at Telford, picking up several items from Grey Matter Figures such as the cockpit and wheelbay enhancements. here is all the aftermarket stuff I aim to be using:

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Moving in a clockwise direction: on the black page you can see the cockpit set in the top left and the wheelbays in the bottom right. Next to that is a set of decals for the lettering in the right colours and size for 5 Sqn in India. Below that is a vacform canopy and next is a set of replacement exhausts, then replacement cannons and finally some masks for the canopy.

Of course this is the build that I want to make diorama out of, featuring my dad doing his job as an electrician. So here are the final extras that will be used to create the diorama. In the family photo album, we've got several pictures of my dad from this period and in all of them he's wearing a bush hat, open shirt and shorts. So to get that combination I've got this little lot:

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Clockwise from the left: Airfix 8th Ary Multipose figures - this will be useful for the lower body, Airfix 1-32 Australian infantry - this will be great for the bush hat and open shirt torso. Next is the 1:32 Aber hand tools set - you'll have seen the 1:48 version of this in my Mohawk build, I suspect that this set will be easier to put together - not so eye-straining! Finally, I will toss in the 1:32 resin accumulator trolly from Iconair. Now I think this will need to have a compressor motor scratch built on the top, but lets cross that bridge when we come to it!

So let us begin with the build. One of the first things I noticed was the elevators are cast as one complete piece. Well thats no good if I'm build a parked up machine undergoing maintenance! So I assembled them and then the razor saw came out and they were cut up. The notch that exposes the hinge was cut in and some plastic rod added. Two brackets were also added in the appropriate places to provide the attachment points for later.

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I also started opening up the fuselage to expose the electrics that my dad would have been working on:

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which also shows the elevators in an earlier stage of construction. Since the plastic of the fuselage is quite thick I chamfered the edges to thin the visible skin:

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I've been researching the internal layout of the fuselage so I can scratch build what will be visible behind these panels. Follow this link to the IWM collections to see the sort of thing I will be aiming to achieve, although not with the wellies! I'm still doing the research to get the internals as correct as possible - I'll start building the cockpit next as this will provide the basics from which I can build further back into the fuselage to provide the framework for the electrics I will be displaying.

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Good start - this should be interesting!

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Very nice. I'll be following this closely.

I get a kick out of breathing new life into older kits myself, and am about to do so with the Airfix 1/24th Hurricane.


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I have a couple of pics of the BoBMF Hurricane with the side panels off that you may find useful. I'll post them up when I am at hom later (Am at work at the mo). Nice work so far.

All the best.

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That would be really useful Greg, thanks.

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Lovely project - I wouldn´t worry about the surface detail, its as accurate as panel lines that scale up inches wide!

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Hi Boldman,

JMN Hat on:

For your info. only, some of that nice raised detail apparently is more relevant to the earlier Hurricane Mk I which, I think, this kit was retooled from. It's particularly obvious about the gun bay panels, apparently; some of the access panel detail reflects the 8 machine gun wing rather than the 4 cannon one.

Removes JMN Hat:

I'll be watching this to see how the kit goes together. I quite fancy trying it myself.

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Will be keeping an eye on your progress will make a great dio.


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FYI, if you want an accurate Mk IIc, you also need the Grey Matter Figures replacement nose, spinner, and prop,which I didn't see among the items pictured. Revell originally released this kit as a Mk.I and did not correctly reflect all the changes when they modified the tooling to the Mk IIc version. The Mk.II has a longer engine cowling than the Mk.I, which also affects the transition between the wing root leading edge and the cowling.

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Here you go.

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Hope they are useful, sorry about the pic quality. lighting was bad in the hanger.

All the best.

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Wow fantastic thanks Greg! You don't happen to have #1 and #6 in a higher resolution by any chance ;)

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Gregers wrote:

Hope they are useful, sorry about the pic quality. lighting was bad in the hanger.



That's no excuse ya lazy git - 20 secs with Windows Live Photo Gallery gets you this...

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C- could try harder! :ha:

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Unfortunately the originals are stored on my old computer. I will see if I can get it running and retrieve them. Failing that David / Lancfan photoshopped some of them for me to improve them. I'll upload the relevant ones onto Photobucket when I have a bit of time spare. Al. As you know I am still a bit computer illiterate :oops: :lol:

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Splendid idea for a project!

I'm surprised that Trumpeter hasn't done a 1/32 Hurricane with removable panels and all that which is now standard on their large scale kits.

I'm curious to know what you think about this model, as I would love to build a large scale huri, and this seems the cheapest of what is out there.


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Well at first all seemed plain sialing but as I got further into discovering about this kit, I realise its pretty much a nightmare kit - its the original Revell Hurricane MK 1 kit with a very minimal amount of effort put in to convert it to a IIc - basically they've stuck cannon and a couple of blisters onto the wings. The nose is wrong (too short) the panel lines on the wings are wrong, radiator, tailwheel and propeller are all wrong. The original cockpit is a bit of a disaster! I've alrady spent twice as much on aftermarket as the kit cost and thats going to increase as soon as Grey Matter Figures sort out their website so I can buy from them again!

I spent most of yesterday sanding down the wings to remove the spurious panel lines, but also perforce having to remove most of the rivet detail. I agree its amazing none of the companies has kitted another one of these in 1/32 yet.

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