Dragon 1/72 T-34/76 Mod. 1942
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Dragon 1/72 T-34/76 Mod. 1942
I don't often build tanks. I started this one a couple of years ago and ran out of steam. It's been calling to me from it's box on the shelf of doom. So...
Construction was completed a couple of days ago. This is a nice kit and needed very little extra care.
It got it's base coat yesterday and the white coat this morning.
I've since started weathering with oils, but no pictures of this yet.
Questions, comments, criticism. All welcome.
Construction was completed a couple of days ago. This is a nice kit and needed very little extra care.
It got it's base coat yesterday and the white coat this morning.
I've since started weathering with oils, but no pictures of this yet.
Questions, comments, criticism. All welcome.
Really nothing pithy to say.
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It is indeed a lovely kit (all the Dragon 1/72 T-34 kits are *) and you've done a terrific job with that painting!
* Well, except for the wheels, for which the people at Dragon should be destined to spend eternity in a very warm place, but let's not hold grudges.
* Well, except for the wheels, for which the people at Dragon should be destined to spend eternity in a very warm place, but let's not hold grudges.
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Thanks, Bruce.
What don't you like about the wheels? Is it all the holes that need drilling or is there something very wrong with them? I don't like the DS tracks for this kit. DS works ok for some of Dragon's other kits, but not so much for their T-34s.
What don't you like about the wheels? Is it all the holes that need drilling or is there something very wrong with them? I don't like the DS tracks for this kit. DS works ok for some of Dragon's other kits, but not so much for their T-34s.
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Impressive paint work. I look forward to seeing how you finish it off
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That's it. Dragon go on and on and on about their wonderful slide molding (and usually it is wonderful) and in the case of the T-34s they crow on about how their T-34 wheels come "pre-assembled" in pairs as opposed to individual wheels (which is how every other T-34 kit does it) ... but they can't work out how to put holes in the wheels?? Did they not notice? Some other manufacturers haven't drilled out the holes either, but Fujimi managed it in their kits from the '70s, I somehow doubt that Dragon lacks the technology. If for some reason it was a choice: you could have the twin wheels, or the holes, take your pick, I would have picked the holes, thank you very much. It's not super-hard to drill them out but it just irks me no end that it's required, and it's certainly more work than assembling multiple pairs of wheels.johnsan wrote:What don't you like about the wheels? Is it all the holes that need drilling
I mostly disagree ... I think the DS tracks are pretty good for the T-34 because it's easy to glue them to the wheels to simulate track sag. Their only failing is that they don't do a great job of showing the sharp angles of the individual tracks as they go around the sprockets and idlers, but because the DS is easy to work with, there are ways around that, and in any case I find that to be a minor point. Plenty of after-market alternatives, too, if you really object to them.I don't like the DS tracks for this kit. DS works ok for some of Dragon's other kits, but not so much for their T-34s.
(That being said I do, in general, prefer link-and-length tracks.)
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Re: Dragon 1/72 T-34/76 Mod. 1942
Reading this thread I noticed that you both have experience with DS-tracks. At the moment I am building the 1/72 Dragon Sherman. This kit comes with the DS-tracks but what glue do I use for the tracks?
This kit also comes with etch parts but this seems a bit of a waste as the kits doesn't need them (and they are so tiny that I wonder if they can be handled).
Back to theT34: the painting is superb.
This kit also comes with etch parts but this seems a bit of a waste as the kits doesn't need them (and they are so tiny that I wonder if they can be handled).
Back to theT34: the painting is superb.
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Regular styrene glue. That's the beauty of these tracks.bassman wrote:Reading this thread I noticed that you both have experience with DS-tracks. At the moment I am building the 1/72 Dragon Sherman. This kit comes with the DS-tracks but what glue do I use for the tracks?
Having dealt with some really, really tiny PE recently, I doubt they're that hard to use. Assuming that they're for the guards around the headlights etc., they would add quite a lot to the look of the finished model IMO.This kit also comes with etch parts but this seems a bit of a waste as the kits doesn't need them (and they are so tiny that I wonder if they can be handled).
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Re: Dragon 1/72 T-34/76 Mod. 1942
Thanks Johnsan and Bruce. I can take the next step now.
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Re: Dragon 1/72 T-34/76 Mod. 1942
Henk, one more thing. It's a really good idea to paint the tracks with acrylic paints. Acrylics are more flexible. So they are less likely to chip when flexed or bent. In addition, and probably more important, DS doesn't seem to really like solvent based paints.
Had a little more time with this one. A bit of oils and added decals. More oils later, then some pigments.
Had a little more time with this one. A bit of oils and added decals. More oils later, then some pigments.
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Added the wheels and did a bit more with oils.
That was a most excellent rant on the wheels, Paul. Drilling them didn't really bother me. It seemed almost therapeutic. No stress involved. Just mindless modeling chore not requiring planning or finesse. I'm more concerned with the DS tracks. I'm worried they will not sit well over the small wheels on the ends. If you have a fix for this, I'd greatly appreciate your sharing it.
That was a most excellent rant on the wheels, Paul. Drilling them didn't really bother me. It seemed almost therapeutic. No stress involved. Just mindless modeling chore not requiring planning or finesse. I'm more concerned with the DS tracks. I'm worried they will not sit well over the small wheels on the ends. If you have a fix for this, I'd greatly appreciate your sharing it.
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johnsan wrote:That was a most excellent rant on the wheels, Paul.
Depends on what you mean by "not sit well". The tracks will wrap around the wheels without any issues. The only real problem is that you can lose the appearance of the individual links, i.e., you get a smooth curve through each link instead of a stepped curve with each link staying flat. One approach to resolving this issue is to very carefully score through the joins between the links so that when you wrap them around the wheel they will naturally bend at the score lines. Extreme care is required though as it is very easy to cut through the track completely. Of course you might want to do that as an alternate approach: cut each link apart and glue them around the wheel as separate pieces.I'm more concerned with the DS tracks. I'm worried they will not sit well over the small wheels on the ends. If you have a fix for this, I'd greatly appreciate your sharing it.
I have to say, the more I look at your build the more impressed I am. I seriously doubt the tracks will give you any grief.
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Re: Dragon 1/72 T-34/76 Mod. 1942
Thats looking great , how did you get the patchy white finish over the green?
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Thanks, Bruce. I just hope I don't screw them up.
Shangos, the winter scheme is a natural for the hairspray technique. The green paint is laid down first. I used Mr Color lacquer. After the green paint cured, I added a coat of hairspray. The white is a sprayed coat of Tamiya acrylic flat white. White is removed with a dampened paintbrush. You can get different effects with different type paintbrushes, toothpicks, or even fingernails. This techique is useful for controlled chipped or degraded paint schemes. I've used this technique on a number of models, not all winter ones.
Shangos, the winter scheme is a natural for the hairspray technique. The green paint is laid down first. I used Mr Color lacquer. After the green paint cured, I added a coat of hairspray. The white is a sprayed coat of Tamiya acrylic flat white. White is removed with a dampened paintbrush. You can get different effects with different type paintbrushes, toothpicks, or even fingernails. This techique is useful for controlled chipped or degraded paint schemes. I've used this technique on a number of models, not all winter ones.
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Re: Dragon 1/72 T-34/76 Mod. 1942
Nice work with the oils. The rear panel looks especially effective.