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Ju-52 Blunder! "last days before the fall of Stalingrad"
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My question is this: I never made a diorama before: any suggestion/help/advice?: How do build a diorama?

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You didn't bin it did you? You could use it in a 'Last days before the fall of Stalingrad' type diorama. Have the Ju as a partly snow covered (hiding the bits you're unhappy with) damaged lame duck, surrounded by 1/144 vehicles and equipment. Or, you could have it in the background for a 1/72 or even a 1/144 + 1/72 + 1/35 three layer forced perspective dio.

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This was my first attempt with 1:144 scale and was try to build a Ju-52 Where Eagles Dare movie prop plane.

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I'm afraid I'm not an expert but what I'm sure of is Planning. Work out what you want to do and how big a base you'll need (if appropriate), work out what's going to be on it and where it's going to go. It's easier to design half a dozen times than keep changing a model/diorama.
And enjoy it!!. :grin:

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Thanks Marky

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What Marky said mate, but also, don't be afraid to experiment and try different things and different materials and see what you like best.

If you make one attempt and it doesn't go to plan, don't be disheartened, but say to yourself, OK, I wasn't happy with that result, so I'll try a different technique or different materials next time. Just think about the venerable P-51 Mustang, limited success (as a fighter anyway) with an Allison engine, but rather than write it off as a bad idea and scrap the airframe, someone had the bright idea of trying something different - putting a Merlin in the hole up front instead.

If you have any specific ideas of what you want to build let us know and we could make suggestions about what materials and techniques to try, then if it doesn't work - you can blame us :ha:

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I've had a look at 1/144 vehicles and dio accessories......for all of the thirty seconds it took to view them all!
As this is a first dio for you I'd suggest something relatively basic but with a powerful background story to it. - One of the last evacuation Ju' 52s out of Stalingrad has burst a tyre and slewed off the runway into a snowdrift and the wounded passengers are having to evacuate. I don't know of any 1/144 German infantry in winter gear, but in that scale it would not take much to alter something like Deck crew or railway figures to unarmed, heavily muffled evacuees.
I'd suggest using a 12"x10" picture frame or board as a base, then cover lightly with some kind of crack repair/ plaster with about 1/3 thinly covered and rutted like a hard packed snow runway and the rest deeper like shovelled snow. The Ju would probably lose a wheel if not a whole u/c on the blowout side, also an aileron (and the wing outboard of the engine if you're feeling adventurous) The side door would have to be cut out for the evacuating figures and a nice touch would be oil drums and various debris beside the 'runway'.
This is all 'Off the top of my head' stuff, I'll look into what figures I would use if I had been going to do this myself and report back soon. :-D

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I really should have put in the BIN!! I put the snow skids on instead of the wheels and "collapsed" the landing struts. I bend back the props.

I super glue it to a photo frame. I painted Light Blue Luftwaffe and flat white.

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I had a bunch of drywall compound. It dries from pink to white. I will see how it looks and post a pic.

I might try to "build" a "snow" plowed into a sort of runway on an angle from the bottom left and top right corners

I did put a "runway" in and used Tamiya weathering "mud" as if during the crash the undercarriage dug up some mud.

I am waiting for the "snow" to dry white.

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Wow! You're really getting into this, so I feel I can suggest some more touches to give it more atmosphere.
There is a distinct lack of 1/144 vehicles, accessories & figures but the winter setting is actually an advantage here. You can scratch damaged vehicles, oil drums or an A/A nest roughly and have them covered by snow. They don't actually have to be accurate in detail, just the right size and general shape, before covering them in snow.

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I'm not suggesting that you do all of the following, just giving you options! :-D

For a small fuel point of oil drums, use approx. 2mm plastic rod or wooden dowel, cut to 5mm lengths, say about 12-15 of them, glue together and cover most of them with a small piece of tissue paper soaked in PVA, shaping it into folds like a tarpaulin cover leaving 3 or 4 visible for painting grey. Then weather with a drybrushing of white paint for snow.

For a Kubelwagen, a block of balsa or Milliput roughly in the shape of the vehicle with just the odd area visible under a thick coat of plaster 'snow'

For an A/A pit, Roll a very thin 'sausage' of Milliput ( I actually use chewing gum!) and crimp into several long strings of sandbag shapes. Make a round hole approx. 12mm dia. near the runway, and surround the lip of the hole with 2 or 3 layers of 'Sandbags'. In this small scale, a flak gun could be reasonably represented with a shaped and slightly folded piece of plastic card with a couple of pieces of thin plastic rod for gun barrels. the breeches could be made with something from the spares box, or, the guns could have been disabled by a near miss (just add a crater right beside the pit) and be pointing straight up negating the need to add too much breech detail.

Sorry, I'm getting carried away here. Just tell me to go and procure for myself the services of a taxidermist if I'm butting in too much.

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The top picture is the last attempt: THIS GOING IN THE BIN

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You sure about that? It's looking very promising so far.

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