VV's "vacant made me do it" Chinese Condor
- VickersVandal
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VV's "vacant made me do it" Chinese Condor
So, emboldened by my success with the Fokker F.III and completely awed at the speed of vacant's Condor build, I am going to very foolishly attempt to build the J&L Curtiss Condor (same kit as vacant's). It will be the BT-32 bomber variant is Chinese colours as the personal transport of Chiang Kai Shek. This is part of my 1930s Chinese Nationalist Air Force build theme. Profile here:
http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/1202/pics/10_1.jpg;
Below is the kit. It is old, fairly perished and with some very thin and fragile or entirely missing sections. The fragility worries me - could end badly. The missing sections are probably nothing a bit of careful scratchbuilding can't handle.
I might cast up some resin copies of the engines from my DC3 if I get time. The kit parts are unusable in my opinion. The wheels look fine though. Props are taken care of - I still have some white metal Aeroclub Hamilton Standards. They'll do.
It will need extra windows and gunner's blisters to make it the bomber variant. Plunge-moulding ahoy!
This build is likely to proceed quite slowly as I have used up most of my holiday time on the other build and have a lot of work to do in the month ahead. We'll see how it goes. I guess nothing ventured, nothing gained...
http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/1202/pics/10_1.jpg;
Below is the kit. It is old, fairly perished and with some very thin and fragile or entirely missing sections. The fragility worries me - could end badly. The missing sections are probably nothing a bit of careful scratchbuilding can't handle.
I might cast up some resin copies of the engines from my DC3 if I get time. The kit parts are unusable in my opinion. The wheels look fine though. Props are taken care of - I still have some white metal Aeroclub Hamilton Standards. They'll do.
It will need extra windows and gunner's blisters to make it the bomber variant. Plunge-moulding ahoy!
This build is likely to proceed quite slowly as I have used up most of my holiday time on the other build and have a lot of work to do in the month ahead. We'll see how it goes. I guess nothing ventured, nothing gained...
Must.....build....ALL the Sopwith Camels!...
My Biggles Model display website: https://tinyurl.com/y74ydzae
My Biggles Model display website: https://tinyurl.com/y74ydzae
Re: VV's "vacant made me do it" Chinese Condor
I see you have the same thin and holed piece of engine nacelle and as I did. The BT-32 will be more diffiult than mine to build, so best wishes with it.
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Re: VV's "vacant made me do it" Chinese Condor
Thanks for that. It will add difficulty, but I think it will be fairly manageable.
All parts cut out:
All parts cut out:
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My Biggles Model display website: https://tinyurl.com/y74ydzae
My Biggles Model display website: https://tinyurl.com/y74ydzae
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Re: VV's "vacant made me do it" Chinese Condor
I thought I'd share a pic of the sanding setup I've come up with. I do my work at the dining table, so I need unobtrusive, mess-free techniques. I can't have polystyrene dust going everywhere.
I'm using 120 grit wet&dry. A heavy glass lasagne tray provides a flat base and allows wet sanding to keep dust to a minimum. I've nicked one of the kids' water bottles to keep it supplied...
Two fingertip-sized squares of blu-tack provide something to grip the part with, particularly as the plastic becomes as slick as anything the instant it gets wet. Even when wet, blu-tack works as long as you dig your fingers in slightly. Part must be absolutely dry when you put it on though.
This setup is working extremely well so far.
I'm using 120 grit wet&dry. A heavy glass lasagne tray provides a flat base and allows wet sanding to keep dust to a minimum. I've nicked one of the kids' water bottles to keep it supplied...
Two fingertip-sized squares of blu-tack provide something to grip the part with, particularly as the plastic becomes as slick as anything the instant it gets wet. Even when wet, blu-tack works as long as you dig your fingers in slightly. Part must be absolutely dry when you put it on though.
This setup is working extremely well so far.
Must.....build....ALL the Sopwith Camels!...
My Biggles Model display website: https://tinyurl.com/y74ydzae
My Biggles Model display website: https://tinyurl.com/y74ydzae
- VickersVandal
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Re: VV's "vacant made me do it" Chinese Condor
AHA! Surplus Stranraer cowlings! Slightly oversized but will do the job and save me some scratchbuilding.
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Re: VV's "vacant made me do it" Chinese Condor
There was a question at the end of Vacant's build about where that one long strut goes when the gear retracts.....It looks liket it slots into the wing and nacelle. I guess
the kit designer didn't know about that either.
the kit designer didn't know about that either.
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- VickersVandal
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Re: VV's "vacant made me do it" Chinese Condor
Yeah, thanks for that. I saw it in vacant's thread. It helps a lot with figuring out this undercarriage.
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Re: VV's "vacant made me do it" Chinese Condor
I found my gun blisters
No need for plunge moulding.
No need for plunge moulding.
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Re: VV's "vacant made me do it" Chinese Condor
Don't paint the eyes, it'll make the recce version...
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Re: VV's "vacant made me do it" Chinese Condor
Literal laugh out loud!
I was hoping they'd be the right diameter and they're pretty much spot on. Curvature is not quite right but it'll do.
I was hoping they'd be the right diameter and they're pretty much spot on. Curvature is not quite right but it'll do.
Must.....build....ALL the Sopwith Camels!...
My Biggles Model display website: https://tinyurl.com/y74ydzae
My Biggles Model display website: https://tinyurl.com/y74ydzae
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Re: VV's "vacant made me do it" Chinese Condor
Found some plans - now I can start on an interior. Nothing too detailed, just enough to be visible through the windscreen.
http://s295.photobucket.com/user/sandgl ... -.jpg.html;
Anyone know what colour the interior should be, given it was the military export version? Would they havve been likely to use the cockpit green/yellow in the early to mid 30s?
http://s295.photobucket.com/user/sandgl ... -.jpg.html;
Anyone know what colour the interior should be, given it was the military export version? Would they havve been likely to use the cockpit green/yellow in the early to mid 30s?
Must.....build....ALL the Sopwith Camels!...
My Biggles Model display website: https://tinyurl.com/y74ydzae
My Biggles Model display website: https://tinyurl.com/y74ydzae
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Re: VV's "vacant made me do it" Chinese Condor
Well, this is the current state of things....
Floors, locating holes for windows and large glassed area on aft fuselage cut out. Given the amount of transparency that will be there, I want to give it some framing as per this:
http://www.airminded.net/shortsubjs/condorwreck.jpg;
(which I think happens to be the burnt out wreck of the actual aircraft I'm building)
There's definitely a DNF here unless I build for the next 48 hours straight...
Floors, locating holes for windows and large glassed area on aft fuselage cut out. Given the amount of transparency that will be there, I want to give it some framing as per this:
http://www.airminded.net/shortsubjs/condorwreck.jpg;
(which I think happens to be the burnt out wreck of the actual aircraft I'm building)
There's definitely a DNF here unless I build for the next 48 hours straight...
Must.....build....ALL the Sopwith Camels!...
My Biggles Model display website: https://tinyurl.com/y74ydzae
My Biggles Model display website: https://tinyurl.com/y74ydzae