Marky's Flogger For Two ***FINISHED***
Re: Marky's Flogger For Two
Thanks, I think it's worth a go. Not the best fitting kit obviously but the parts are clean and well moulded and have good detail on them. It just needs the fit of parts checking before the use of glue is committed to. A lot of colour/decal schemes too, sixteen paint schemes across about twelve air forces so plenty to choose from.
As I've said I've got a resin conversion set for the Academy -23S so I'll get that going and see if it's a better proposition than the Art Model kit....
As I've said I've got a resin conversion set for the Academy -23S so I'll get that going and see if it's a better proposition than the Art Model kit....
Hoping to return to modelling sometime this year!!
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Re: Marky's Flogger For Two
That would be good to know as I fancy a twin seat flogger but am not one for lots of work.MarkyM607 wrote: As I've said I've got a resin conversion set for the Academy -23S so I'll get that going and see if it's a better proposition than the Art Model kit....
Doing a grand job here. I hope you have plenty of filler.
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Current Projects:
East German Air Force (1956-90)
South African Air Force (1958-93)
Current Projects:
East German Air Force (1956-90)
South African Air Force (1958-93)
Re: Marky's Flogger For Two
Hi, just some update pics...
The sides of the rear fuselage even with sanding on it's inner surface and on the exhaust pipe!!..
As I said, I do like a little model with my filler!!...
Oh and the wings have somewhat of a droop thing going on. I think the problem is that the tabs the wings pivot on is not tall enough and the wing gloves can't hold them level. I would (and I think I will), put a bit of plastic on the underside of the wing inside the glove. Hopefully this will level them out.
Oh, one final note. The conversion set I have is by Balotoi Models. I've rescued it from the loft and assuming the BoB GB doesn't get in the way, should get it going soon.
The sides of the rear fuselage even with sanding on it's inner surface and on the exhaust pipe!!..
As I said, I do like a little model with my filler!!...
Oh and the wings have somewhat of a droop thing going on. I think the problem is that the tabs the wings pivot on is not tall enough and the wing gloves can't hold them level. I would (and I think I will), put a bit of plastic on the underside of the wing inside the glove. Hopefully this will level them out.
Oh, one final note. The conversion set I have is by Balotoi Models. I've rescued it from the loft and assuming the BoB GB doesn't get in the way, should get it going soon.
Hoping to return to modelling sometime this year!!
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Hi. After the issues so far I've decided to decline to do the undercarriage, which I'm sure you know is a complicated beastie on a -23 at the best of times. This of course meant closing the airbrakes, the instructions show them open. Luckily they go closed without problems (yes, it's a first!!). I also had to raid the bits boxes for recruits to the cockpit. Managed to get the rear pilot in after sanding his.. um, bottom and 'a little off the sides Sir?'. The front pilot needed more space between his feet to fit but his leg broke off while trying this so now he's Douglas Baderski.
Not sure I would recommend this kit. It does come to looking like a two seat -23 but it isn't the best fitting. Still, it seems to be coming good so on we go.
P.S. After looking at the paint schemes for the umpteenth time I asked mum what she liked and so now I'm doing a MIG-23UB from the Cuban Air Force!.
Not sure I would recommend this kit. It does come to looking like a two seat -23 but it isn't the best fitting. Still, it seems to be coming good so on we go.
P.S. After looking at the paint schemes for the umpteenth time I asked mum what she liked and so now I'm doing a MIG-23UB from the Cuban Air Force!.
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This is turning into something of a battle but you do seem to be beating it into submission
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It's starting to look decent enough now. The problem with the wings re:- droop, is that when they are swept forward there is no wing connector between the two wings, plus there isn't enough wing inside the fuselage. This all means the weight of the wing pulls it down and they droop. If I did this kit again (?), I would put a wing connector in somehow.
I've decided to mount the aircraft in flight and have the wings swept back. Otherwise I might be tempted to give up on it!!.
I've decided to mount the aircraft in flight and have the wings swept back. Otherwise I might be tempted to give up on it!!.
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NO don't do that! You are beating this one into shape and the Cuban camo scheme is very cool. I am assuming that you are doing the blue & green one?MarkyM607 wrote:Otherwise I might be tempted to give up on it!!.
2023 - A:0 B:0 C:0
Current Projects:
East German Air Force (1956-90)
South African Air Force (1958-93)
Current Projects:
East German Air Force (1956-90)
South African Air Force (1958-93)
Re: Marky's Flogger For Two
No, No I've gone too far to abandon it now! . And yes it is the blue & green one. The other thing with this kit is the colour instructions. They have coloured blocks next to paint numbers which are Humbrol, but the numbers are mixed up so you have 155 (green), next to a block for a grey paint!. Seems to be on most of the schemes but you can work it out!. Course, I found my Humbrol 155 is completely rock hard and I can't get any quickly, so I'm using 86!!.Old_Tonto wrote:NO don't do that! You are beating this one into shape and the Cuban camo scheme is very cool. I am assuming that you are doing the blue & green one?MarkyM607 wrote:Otherwise I might be tempted to give up on it!!.
P.S. I was caught between several schemes, the East German one looks good as does the grey Polish one. Hence why I asked Mum!!.
Hoping to return to modelling sometime this year!!
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Sob, whimper, sob. I want to cry (although that might just mean an increase in my citalopram is needed!!!!). This MIG is one hell of a dog-fighter. I wanted to put the undercarriage up so found two pilots and installed them, only to find Art Model want you to build it wheels down!!. Argh. The undercarriage is okay but the pics don't seem to represent it 100%, possibly 85/90%. What to do?. grrr. I have discovered that the u/c doors on -23's are in about five parts so gluing it closed is problematic but the inner doors cover half the bay so I have started gluing it closed. I will use plastic strip and filler or PVA to fill the rest. Nose wheel should be easier. Really not enjoying this that much but on we go.
Hoping to return to modelling sometime this year!!
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Okay, I have used so much filler on seams and done enough sanding that spotting the surface detail will be a sport in itself. The wheel bay doors are underway, from here on it's 'Get it Done and out of the way'. Really tired of it now. Luckily only the wheel doors and paint to do now, not putting any ordnance on her.
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Re: Marky's Flogger For Two
Been thinking about this kit for a while now, think I've finally been put off. Great work beating it into shape, way more patience than me
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I don't mean to put anyone off anything but I just couldn't recommend it, this is just the experience and opinion I've found making the kit. The kit just isn't user-friendly!. As for patience it's more down to OCD and not wanting to have a DNF in a Group Build!Kitaholic wrote:Been thinking about this kit for a while now, think I've finally been put off. Great work beating it into shape, way more patience than me
(I also have their Yak-141 waiting for several years in the loft. Unfortunately it may stay there a few more now!).
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Re: Marky's Flogger For Two
Maybe a better kit and a resin conversion would be easier. I'm grateful to you for giving me a preview of this Marky and mightily impressed at the way you've handled it
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I was thinking the same Daz. Who does make a decent resin conversion?Dazzled wrote:Maybe a better kit and a resin conversion would be easier. I'm grateful to you for giving me a preview of this Marky and mightily impressed at the way you've handled it
2023 - A:0 B:0 C:0
Current Projects:
East German Air Force (1956-90)
South African Air Force (1958-93)
Current Projects:
East German Air Force (1956-90)
South African Air Force (1958-93)