General Rocket builds a Porsche
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General Rocket builds a Porsche
In May 1942 Henschel and Porsche where asked to submit proposals for a design for a 45 ton heavy tank mounting ab 88mm gun, mounted in a turret supplied by Krupp. The Porsche design lost out mainly due to unreliability.
I was unable to find much in the way of usable pictures on the web, but what I have will be adequate to tell me what I need to know. The Bergepanzer Tiger was the next step in the evolution, so with minimal alteration to the hull supplied by Dragon, will form the basis of the model. The turret will come from the Airfix Tiger, partly because its simple and basic, and partly because its cheap.
I was unable to find much in the way of usable pictures on the web, but what I have will be adequate to tell me what I need to know. The Bergepanzer Tiger was the next step in the evolution, so with minimal alteration to the hull supplied by Dragon, will form the basis of the model. The turret will come from the Airfix Tiger, partly because its simple and basic, and partly because its cheap.
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Should make for an unusual looking model, with the turret so far forward.
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a Porsche with an engine in the rear, who would have ever thought that would happen?
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Isn't that a spare in case the 'real' one up front conks out?splash wrote:a Porsche with an engine in the rear, who would have ever thought that would happen?
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And they had reliability problems. Who would have thunk?iggie wrote:Isn't that a spare in case the 'real' one up front conks out?splash wrote:a Porsche with an engine in the rear, who would have ever thought that would happen?
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Avoiding these very Poor'sche jokes.
The parts for the hull laid out.
The original top plate has been cut just behind the crew apertures, and the apertures filled, It will then be glued into position. As the centre of the top plate is a fatter than the bergepanzer, I have cut the Airfix Tiger's top plate to size and shape. Behind that, the radiator grill from the Bergepanzer will be used. The rear sloping plate is being modified from the top plate in the Bergepanzer kit.
The Airfix turret waiting construction.
This work, plus pictures should be complete tomorrow.
The parts for the hull laid out.
The original top plate has been cut just behind the crew apertures, and the apertures filled, It will then be glued into position. As the centre of the top plate is a fatter than the bergepanzer, I have cut the Airfix Tiger's top plate to size and shape. Behind that, the radiator grill from the Bergepanzer will be used. The rear sloping plate is being modified from the top plate in the Bergepanzer kit.
The Airfix turret waiting construction.
This work, plus pictures should be complete tomorrow.
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General,
How's it going? I know nuffin' about tanks, but this looks like a bit of a challenge. Looking forward to seeing more.
Regards
Martin
How's it going? I know nuffin' about tanks, but this looks like a bit of a challenge. Looking forward to seeing more.
Regards
Martin
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Slower than anticipated. Doesn't help that my maths was slightly out.
Update and honesty shortly.
Update and honesty shortly.
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Sorry to hear that. Hope you can turn it around.general rocket wrote:Slower than anticipated. Doesn't help that my maths was slightly out.
Update and honesty shortly.
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On it right now. Nothing a bit of filler and a bit of bluffing won't cure.
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An important motto to followgeneral rocket wrote:On it right now. Nothing a bit of filler and a bit of bluffing won't cure.
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First job on the hull is the removal of the plates highlighted in orange.
The turret went together so well that the small amount of filler used hardly shows (front left as you view it).
The hull. The front plates are as Dragon intended. The top is a mishmash. The front part is cut from the Dragon top plate, and the apertures filled. The brown part is from the Airfix kit and cut to size.
The rear sloping plate is cut from the rear crew compartment, and the hole filled with plastic card.
So far, so good.
The next installment will cover how I got it wrong.
The turret went together so well that the small amount of filler used hardly shows (front left as you view it).
The hull. The front plates are as Dragon intended. The top is a mishmash. The front part is cut from the Dragon top plate, and the apertures filled. The brown part is from the Airfix kit and cut to size.
The rear sloping plate is cut from the rear crew compartment, and the hole filled with plastic card.
So far, so good.
The next installment will cover how I got it wrong.
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The cover above the engine is cut from the original top plate from the dragon kit.
The original prototype did not have the centre aperture above engine, but I reasoned that extra cooling may have been required, so decided to leave it as is. I have since changed my mind and will remove it.
A test fit. The Airfix plate fell a bit short, so a spacer was fitted.
The radiator cover sat a bit high, so the hull was filed down until it sat correctly.
Filed. glued and filled, she now sits correctly.
A test fit of the turret showed that it sat too far back. Compare with the diagram behind. I'm not entirely sure what I did wrong. Apparently I forgot to subtract the cabin cover from the main top plate.
I turned the turret upside down an correctly positioned it by eye, then drilled a new hole. Most model companies use an aperture that is more to scale, fortunately Airfix don't, so it was an easy fix. A quick measure of the distance between the holes seems to confirm that I forgot to subtract the cabin cover plate.
The turret in it's correct position. The stowage bin is from the spares box, panzer 3, probably.
The rear grill was fashioned from a grill at the rear of the Airfix Tiger. It was cut out, trimmed and filed to a much closer thickness.
The grill in place.
That's it so far.
Comments and criticism welcome.
The original prototype did not have the centre aperture above engine, but I reasoned that extra cooling may have been required, so decided to leave it as is. I have since changed my mind and will remove it.
A test fit. The Airfix plate fell a bit short, so a spacer was fitted.
The radiator cover sat a bit high, so the hull was filed down until it sat correctly.
Filed. glued and filled, she now sits correctly.
A test fit of the turret showed that it sat too far back. Compare with the diagram behind. I'm not entirely sure what I did wrong. Apparently I forgot to subtract the cabin cover from the main top plate.
I turned the turret upside down an correctly positioned it by eye, then drilled a new hole. Most model companies use an aperture that is more to scale, fortunately Airfix don't, so it was an easy fix. A quick measure of the distance between the holes seems to confirm that I forgot to subtract the cabin cover plate.
The turret in it's correct position. The stowage bin is from the spares box, panzer 3, probably.
The rear grill was fashioned from a grill at the rear of the Airfix Tiger. It was cut out, trimmed and filed to a much closer thickness.
The grill in place.
That's it so far.
Comments and criticism welcome.
I wish, that I knew what was doing!
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The removal of the centre radiator completed. Nothing more clever than filing, filling, filing and wet"n"dry.
The addition of the suspension arms.
A quick coat of ModelColor Black Grey has been applied as a base coat to the places that will be unreachable when built. Next stage is a bit of light weathering. The intention is to give the rest of the tank a base coat and then a topcoat of Miniature Paints Dark Grey.
Comments and criticism welcome.
The addition of the suspension arms.
A quick coat of ModelColor Black Grey has been applied as a base coat to the places that will be unreachable when built. Next stage is a bit of light weathering. The intention is to give the rest of the tank a base coat and then a topcoat of Miniature Paints Dark Grey.
Comments and criticism welcome.
I wish, that I knew what was doing!