SS Edmund Fitzgerald *** DNF ***
- JohnRatzenberger
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Re: SS Edmund Fitzgerald
I have the larger piece "fixed, although a bit more work is required.
No pix today, it all looks just like above but a bit straighter.
What I'm trying to do is get to the stage where I can paint, and then mask, the white areas especially the hatch "sides" and the cabins, etc. Then I can start on other colors ... assembly is almost an afterthought there are so few pieces.
No pix today, it all looks just like above but a bit straighter.
What I'm trying to do is get to the stage where I can paint, and then mask, the white areas especially the hatch "sides" and the cabins, etc. Then I can start on other colors ... assembly is almost an afterthought there are so few pieces.
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- splash
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Re: SS Edmund Fitzgerald
I look forward to seeing what you do with the paint.
My work bench is starting to look like Portsmouth Naval Dockyard.
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Re: SS Edmund Fitzgerald
Me too.splash wrote:I look forward to seeing what you do with the paint.
Dare I ask how you 'Fixed' the larger part?
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- JohnRatzenberger
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Re: SS Edmund Fitzgerald
Again, no pix because I'd have to "do it over", but I used some small clamps to hold the deck section against a metal rule. In the process I had to breakoff the solid rail section in front and the little piece of deck at the rear -- they will have to be put back on separately.Old_Tonto wrote: Dare I ask how you 'Fixed' the larger part?
With the warped part clamped solidly, I immerse it in hot (hotter than tap, but not near boiling) water for 2 minutes, then immerse it in cold (room-temp) water for a like time then take it out and let it sit, still clamped, for a day. My "patented" method of persuading resin to adopt a proper shape.
None of the 3 sections are perfect but will look better when glued down.
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Re: SS Edmund Fitzgerald
Excellent advice John, I shall remember that in case I ever have need.
I have in the past taken a bent Spitfire into a hot bath to straighten out the fuselage. It worked too.
I have in the past taken a bent Spitfire into a hot bath to straighten out the fuselage. It worked too.
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Re: SS Edmund Fitzgerald
I'll get back on this as soon as I get the Matchbox GB behind me.
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Re: SS Edmund Fitzgerald
OK, the Matchbox GB is done, so here we go.
I sorted paints today, deciding to go Humbrol enamel with a final semi-gloss finish. May use a few washes and filters. I have chosen several dark red/brown/rust colors to give contrast.
First thing is the "rust-red brown" for the hull, here the first coat is slooowwwly drying.
Step away, there is nothing to see here - those holes and rough spots on the bottom of the hull do not exist.
I sorted paints today, deciding to go Humbrol enamel with a final semi-gloss finish. May use a few washes and filters. I have chosen several dark red/brown/rust colors to give contrast.
First thing is the "rust-red brown" for the hull, here the first coat is slooowwwly drying.
Step away, there is nothing to see here - those holes and rough spots on the bottom of the hull do not exist.
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Re: SS Edmund Fitzgerald
What holes?
Best wishes
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Re: SS Edmund Fitzgerald
Good, Iggie. Now eat up youriggie wrote:What holes?
.......aaaaaand, you're back in the room.
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Re: SS Edmund Fitzgerald
Coat of Hu113 on the hull as Rust-Red-Brown. Maybe too brown so I ran a Dark Rust wash over it.
Then a coat of Hu70 on the deck as rust-red. Looks a bit too much like the hull, I wanted a tad more difference.
Then Hu100 on the hatch tops, a variant on rust-red of the deck.
Also made a simple work stand. I had spent some time finding the propeller and rudder in all the membrane, then putting them on. The prop is too big and fouls the rudder, so I kludged that. Then, while painting another part of the hull/deck, I knocked off the rudder, which is why I then built the work stand to protect it.
Going to start white paint tomorrow and I'll get some pix up.
Sorry, it's been 5 minutes at-odd-times modeling last few days.
Then a coat of Hu70 on the deck as rust-red. Looks a bit too much like the hull, I wanted a tad more difference.
Then Hu100 on the hatch tops, a variant on rust-red of the deck.
Also made a simple work stand. I had spent some time finding the propeller and rudder in all the membrane, then putting them on. The prop is too big and fouls the rudder, so I kludged that. Then, while painting another part of the hull/deck, I knocked off the rudder, which is why I then built the work stand to protect it.
Going to start white paint tomorrow and I'll get some pix up.
Sorry, it's been 5 minutes at-odd-times modeling last few days.
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Re: SS Edmund Fitzgerald
See post just above for explanation. Here is the hull and deck, painted.
I'm still not convinced I have the distinction between the hull and the deck that I want, but I move along and fix it later.
Right now I am preparing to pint white along the upper parts of the hull and the cabins, railings, etc. I am thinking of running a white line along the edges of the hatch covers -- some pix suggest that as an option, or I just cannot interpret them properly. The instructions are conflicting at best.
I'm still not convinced I have the distinction between the hull and the deck that I want, but I move along and fix it later.
Right now I am preparing to pint white along the upper parts of the hull and the cabins, railings, etc. I am thinking of running a white line along the edges of the hatch covers -- some pix suggest that as an option, or I just cannot interpret them properly. The instructions are conflicting at best.
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Re: SS Edmund Fitzgerald
Very neat work John; the colours look distinct in your photos, and very sharp
Best wishes
Jim
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Re: SS Edmund Fitzgerald
Please excuse my ignorance, not knowing anything about the Great Lakes apart from their locations.
How bad do the storms get on the lakes, is it a case of high winds & rough water but low swell, I ask because the long length and short width of these vessels must've put huge strain on the hull if the swell was long and high like that seen on the large oceans.
How bad do the storms get on the lakes, is it a case of high winds & rough water but low swell, I ask because the long length and short width of these vessels must've put huge strain on the hull if the swell was long and high like that seen on the large oceans.
My work bench is starting to look like Portsmouth Naval Dockyard.
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Re: SS Edmund Fitzgerald
Splash, I don't live along them (I'm an ocean guy) and really don't know that much other than they are not little placid rowboat-y type lakes. Jeff/Jssell lives along them and can probably provide 1st hand info.
I did find this article which might address some of your questions about the sinking:
http://www.miseagrant.umich.edu/lessons ... itzgerald/;
It would appear that steep, short-period waves are the issue.
I did find this article which might address some of your questions about the sinking:
http://www.miseagrant.umich.edu/lessons ... itzgerald/;
It would appear that steep, short-period waves are the issue.
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Re: SS Edmund Fitzgerald
Cheers John that's excellent reading, it definitely sounded like it was not a good night to be out on the lakes.
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