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PostPosted: December 26th, 2017, 3:42 pm 
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My entry(ies) for the Krap Kits build.
Revell "Robert E Lee", and Lindberg "Landing Craft Infantry". These will be cross kitted, and with also have a bit of scratch building. Both will be built to n scale, the L.C.I. is 1/160 (American n) the Robert E Lee is 1/297 but will have a scratch built superstructure, built to n scale.
The Robert E lee is generally not too bad a kit, other than very old fashioned in construction and the molds being tired. It required a lot of filler and filing, but I have built far worse. When finished, she will become a river monitor, based loosely on H.M.S.Conqueror. Launched 1881 she was a coastal defence/ram battleship. The Robert E Lee was flat bottomed so the model will built as waterline.

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The Lindberg kit I know only by reputation, which is poor fit and clunky molding. Initial impressions are that its reputation is correct with addition of a fair ammont of flash.
Using the paddles from the "Robert E Lee", raiding the spares box and a bit of scratch building, it is my intention to build her as a full hull Victorian outline sidewheeler.

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Your comments and criticisms are welcome.

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Seems a bit premature to mark this as Did Not Finish, no? Is that what you meant to do?

It looks an intriguing cross kitting challenge.

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Merely a comment on the amount of work that I have given myself to do.

I should have plenty of time to finish, as I am currently stuck at home with an injured foot. For those of you who saw me at Scale Model World, this explains the walking stick.

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general rocket wrote:
My entry(ies) for the Krap Kits build.
Revell "Robert E Lee", and Lindberg "Landing Craft Infantry". These will be cross kitted, and with also have a bit of scratch building. Both will be built to n scale, the L.C.I. is 1/160 (American n) the Robert E Lee is 1/297 but will have a scratch built superstructure, built to n scale.
The Robert E lee is generally not too bad a kit, other than very old fashioned in construction and the molds being tired. It required a lot of filler and filing, but I have built far worse. When finished, she will become a river monitor, based loosely on H.M.S.Conqueror. Launched 1881 she was a coastal defence/ram battleship. The Robert E Lee was flat bottomed so the model will built as waterline.

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The Lindberg kit I know only by reputation, which is poor fit and clunky molding. Initial impressions are that its reputation is correct with addition of a fair ammont of flash.
Using the paddles from the "Robert E Lee", raiding the spares box and a bit of scratch building, it is my intention to build her as a full hull Victorian outline sidewheeler.

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Your comments and criticisms are welcome.

This sounds like some creative project, indeed, i'll watch with interest :-)

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Not a ship builder myself, but I certainly enjoy the efforts of those so inclined.

Will be watching and looking forward to updates,

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Don't follow me, I'm lost too.
I know virtually nothing about water craft and am building these freelance. As long as they look right to me, that is close enough. Like you, I enjoy other peoples ships, and wish I knew more.

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And so to dive in.
First up, the landing craft/paddle steamer. First job is to remove all the flash.
Then remove the de-shipping (is that the right term?) ramps on both sides.

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Nothing clever, just cutting, trimming, filing, filling and sanding.

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It wasn't till I'd finished the second side (starboard?) that I noticed the crease half way down the hull. My first thought was that I had caused it by pressing to hard on the plastic while trimming it with a craft knife, but a quick look at the sprue shot at the top of page we can see that it was already there as a manufacturing fault.

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A little more filling and filing and the problem went away. Here we see it with the next cut marked out.

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At the moment I am undecided as to what to do about the panel lines, scribe or remove altogether. Any thoughts?
The Robert E Lee/monitor first jobs. Cut down the hull so that it is level front to rear, and the deck so it doesn't over hang.

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After deciding on the height of the hull and cutting and filing, I am left with a dip to hide, just about discernable in this shot.

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Immediate thoughts are to glue a piece of plastic card behind the hull wall and pile in the filler.

Comments and criticism welcome.

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Good start. I think the term is dis-embarking but I could be wrong!.

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You're off to a grand start and I think you'll successfully overcome any and all obstacles!

Card and filler is how I'd do it too, but I am no expert that's for sure.

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The Great Auk wrote:
You're off to a grand start and I think you'll successfully overcome any and all obstacles!

Card and filler is how I'd do it too, but I am no expert that's for sure.

The Great Auk

Yep, looking forward to these!. It does seem we're all experts- at saying we're not experts!! :ha:

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The Great Auk wrote:
You're off to a grand start and I think you'll successfully overcome any and all obstacles!

Card and filler is how I'd do it too, but I am no expert that's for sure.

The Great Auk

Yep, looking forward to these!. It does seem we're all experts- at saying we're not experts!! :ha:


Well I really am not an expert, I just bluff well.

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Spoken like a true expert! :ha:

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Spoken like a true expert! :ha:


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With the side walls removed, and the centre piece in place to allow a clear mental view of what is required.

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First job cut a doorway into the fo'csle, plastic card glued over the hole and a port hole drilled.
Boxes cut off (whatever they are). Then filled.

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The paddle wheels needed deflashing and would not line up at all. Until I fetched my camera to show you how bad they were, at which point they dropped into place :???: . Glue grabbed immediately.

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The paddle wheel covers, before and after.

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The other ship.
The hull. I decided to keep it simple, plastic card glued in place and trimmed to level.

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The deck placed on the hull to help plan the cuts to be made.

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Annoyingly, after a lot of work, I decided that I didn't like the end result, so I settled for a sheet of plastic card glued across the top. Filler was then used to deal with the gap in the middle.

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Thats how they stand at the moment.

Comments and criticism welcome.

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That's some excellent work and I really like the door and the paddle wheels, General Rocket.

Maybe we should start calling you Admiral Rocket instead?

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