With Added Stripes GB

[fredk]

I've had time to search other parts of the forum and I've had time to think.
I'm going to make some GB proposals.
Maybe some can be fitted in at the end of this year, maybe they'll be for the next year.

This is a daft one;
With added stripes.
Straight stripes, not squiggly lines.
Anything which had stripes added for special identity purposes.
Not stripes which were safety markings.

First thing which comes to your mind are the black & white D-Day stripes added to aircraft.
But there are so many more.

Stripes were added to;
Aircraft taking part in the Dieppe Raid
French aircaft in the Vietnam war
Aircraft during the Suez conflict
Israeli aircraft during the Israel-Arab wars
British tanks late in WW1
ID stripes on P51s, P47s, Hawker Typhoons
On Hurricanes and RAF P47s in India/Burma T.O.
USN squadron colour stripes pre-WW2
Black on yellow stripes on British trainers during WW2 and after
Personal ID stripes on WW1 aircraft
Vichy red/yellow stripes
Black/yellow ones on F86s in Korea
RN stripes on aircraft in Korea
and much more.

What does the collective think?

[iggie]

Sounds good Fred and should result in a wide range of entries......or a mixed scale re-creation of D-Day!

[JohnRatzenberger]

The red-yellow stripes on Vichy aircraft would qualify ?

The only one I ever did was a Hawk 75 very long ago, made by cross-kitting a Monogram 1/48 P-40 and a Monogram 1/48 SBD, not that I want to go through the same effort.

[fredk]

Vichy stripes are good
I'll add that to the list.

[Martin R]

Suez black / yellow stripes?

I have a FROG Wyvern in a bag in need of building.

[DazDaMan]

Post-war target-tugs (Tempest, Mosquito) had stripy undersides:



Also, it might not look it, but this one has a stripe around the fuselage (and possibly the wings - I built my version without!):



I might be up for this one - even if it is just a D-Day scheme or something.

[splash]

I'm not sure if it fits but the RN painted black stripes down the funnel and hulls of all their type 42 destroyers used in the Falklands.

[fredk]

Were they special for ID rather than an outline disruptive scheme?

[JohnRatzenberger]

It's probably a hair-splitter, but you exclude stripes for safety purposes but then allow black/yellow stripes for trainers (and target tugs ?) which are really a form of identity/safety.

Or do you mean "safety" such as bands to warn of rotating props and such ?

I'm just a bit confused ...

[fredk]

So am I
As I see it stripes on trainers/tugs were to identify them as trainers or tugs
But there; the sky tail band on RAF fighter was a stripe for id purposes, as were the wing stripes on P51s, P47s which were also for safety.
I dunno anyfing anymore nohow
Ideas anyone?

[DazDaMan]

So am I
As I see it stripes on trainers/tugs were to identify them as trainers or tugs
But there; the sky tail band on RAF fighter was a stripe for id purposes, as were the wing stripes on P51s, P47s which were also for safety.
I dunno anyfing anymore nohow
Ideas anyone?

Technically speaking, so were D-Day stripes, to prevent aircraft being shot down by their own side.

[Old_Tonto]

I should think you could define the GB criteria as: 'Any stripes added to aid with identification as friendly.'

So target tugs would be out i'm afraid as they would invariably be operating in safe areas.
Invasion stripes would be in as they were to aid 'identification as friendly'.

The sky fuselage band on RAF aircraft is only to designate them as part of fighter command so I guess would not qualify.
Does that make sense at all?

[JohnRatzenberger]

Sorry for my question, but I think it and the answers show that we've gotten off into the weeds too far. I think the "added stripes" was a good intent but is a bit too fuzzy because in many of the cited examples in the OP, these added stripes then became "standard", not just added. The distinction between identity and safety is also very fuzzy.

How about we go back to:
-- Anything which had stripes added for special identity purposes (which most examples in OP list are).
-- Straight stripes, not squiggly lines (but sloppily applied stripes, ala D-Day, are OK).
-- Not stripes which were safety markings (which excludes prop clearance & other stencil-ly stuff).

I think we all have the picture and the list in the OP is a great starter to give folks ideas.

I will say that we should encourage some effort - to simply flop out something with the FC fuselage band and call it a stripe isn't really in the spirit or the intent.

Fred, back to you

[gnomemeansgnome]

Sounds like ID bands on Israeli vehicles during the Six Day War and maybe the ones on Soviet vehicles for the invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia would be eligible too? How about the colorful bands worn by Japanese naval aircraft involved in the attack on Pearl Harbour?

[fredk]

John, no need to apologise.
If you're not part-British you should be. A very British trait is to always apologise even when not necessary

A. Due to the lack of responses for a couple of months I though this idea had died away
B. John's outline is fine ~ I would add No Tiger stripes or such decoration.
C. Meaning of 'Safety' lines - not airframe stenciling warning lines, eg walkways or the red line around US jets; but stripes painted on trainers, tugs etc to mark them as such.

I think my original idea was the stripes had to have been added for a special or one particular reason and be prominent.
Even this opens it wide and far reaching.

I think everyone has the general idea and no-one is going to push the definition to its limits.