Early Cold War GB

[Gadfly]

Hi,

Here is a suggestion for a GB to cover Aircraft, Ships, AFV's, Rockets and Missiles used in the Early Cold War period. Any kit any scale any manufacturer. No WHIF's

Using Wikipedia as a handy reference ( yes I know) the Cold War is broken up into several periods. I propose the GB covers the period 1947-1962 the subject you are modelling needed to have entered service before 31st December 1962.

This period covers a number of Wars such as Korea 1950-1953, IndoChina 1946-1954, Algeria 1954-1962 , The Suez Crisis etc etc.. So what do we do about those in the context of a GB?

My suggestion is where possible participants avoid subjects that directly tie into a specific conflict. So for example build your Airfix MiG-15 as a generic Soviet aircraft not a North Korean Aircraft.

The range of potential subjects is huge and covers a lot of development in technology. So it should be possible to have lots of variety and great subjects without needing to dip into well trodden ground for subject matter.

let me know what you think.

GF

[JohnRatzenberger]

My suggestion is where possible participants avoid subjects that directly tie into a specific conflict. So for example build your Airfix MiG-15 as a generic Soviet aircraft not a North Korean Aircraft.

Out of curiosity, why ? I can understand allowing generic subjects of the period, but not avoiding specific subjects.

[lancfan]

Gf, the wars you mention could each be a valid GB subject.

David.

[Gadfly]

Yes I thought that as well. Hence a bit of restraint at letting subjects from them filter over into this potential GB.

Plus while you could argue every major world event was influenced by the Cold War in that period Some of these conflicts we're just colonial in nature so arguably not in the scope of the GB.

It's a trade off I suppose you want a nice wide remit to allow a good range of potential subjects to attract participants. Without allowing Carte Blanche.

Thoughts?
GF..

[Dazzled]

I'm in, naturally.

[fredk]

For my tuppence worth;
I learnt that the 'Cold War' was a stand-off between NATO and the Warsaw Pact countries in greater Europe.
The conflicts in other areas, eg Middle-East, Congo, Vietnam, Korea, were 'Hot' wars and where the Eastern and Western military hardware was tried out and shown off.

[Gadfly]

Hi Fred,

I'm not sure if that is the case. For example the Cuban missile crisis is considered to be a Cold War event yet took the place many miles from Europe and didn't involve NATO in any way.

Cheers
GF

[Dazzled]

For reference, please check out the remit of the Cold War SIG here:

http://uamf.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=204&t=12816

[JohnRatzenberger]

Thanks, Darryl & Chris.

As pointed out, the CW was as much political/ideological as anything, not necessarily bound in time or space. Just about anything that went on, regardless of who, where, what, why, when had something to do with the two powers elbowing each other around. Money, supplies, equipment, even manpower were provided in an effort to influence event he smallest country to align one way or another. Many times all this took place through surrogates, with the two powers seemingly one-two steps removed, but they weren't.

Let's be simple here and go with Early Cold War, 1947-62, any subject. Or if too broad then agree on definable limits but not exclusions.

[SBO]

This is definitely something I am interested in. As a history grad who loves this time period I am keen - though I have to ask, would space themed kits come in under rockets?

[Old_Tonto]

Thanks, Darryl & Chris.

As pointed out, the CW was as much political/ideological as anything, not necessarily bound in time or space. Just about anything that went on, regardless of who, where, what, why, when had something to do with the two powers elbowing each other around. Money, supplies, equipment, even manpower were provided in an effort to influence event he smallest country to align one way or another. Many times all this took place through surrogates, with the two powers seemingly one-two steps removed, but they weren't.

Let's be simple here and go with Early Cold War, 1947-62, any subject. Or if too broad then agree on definable limits but not exclusions.

Whilst I agree with your point John I think allowing anything from the cold war period is going to cover far too many subjects. I think we should narrow the criteria somewhat to region. My preference being Europe as this is where the super powers and their allies faced of over an extended period of time.

So from a GB point of view how about any cold war subject, European based; 1947-62. That still gives you lots of scope (including the reformed Luftwaffe) whilst at least ring fencing the protagonists. Just my two penneth worth.

[JohnRatzenberger]

Good suggestion, O_T, tightens up the focus quite nicely - if that's what Gadfly wants.

I think we (or maybe just me ) were wandering into a one-over-the-world discussion of the Cold War.

[IronMan129]

I'd be interested in any Cold War GB so count me in!

[MarkyM607]

I think it would be good to do the starting period from right after the second world war, perhaps the decade after. It would certainly be the 'early' Cold War!.

[Gadfly]

The intent was to set a set of parameters that allowed for a diverse range of subjects that are not exclusively aircraft. The hopeful outcome is therefore lots of choice and hopefully lots of participants.