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PostPosted: May 14th, 2017, 10:41 am 
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Good Morning Chaps :-D

I'm about to embark on an epic adventure that is my first Wingnut Wings Kit :)
Not being a wingy thing builder, this should be a hoot...
I have 3, the Hisso SE5a, W29 Float plane and the Felixstowe, but I have decided to build the SE 5a first to get a bit of practice in on the woody bits, rigging etc.

My question is, does anyone have info on the Tamiya equivalent of PC10?
I use mainly Tamiya Acrylics, and they are basically the only thing that's available here, apart from Humbrol.

Any advice greatly appreciated :)

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No advice I'm afraid, but will be waiting eagerly for you to start building so I can follow along; I have one in the stash to build :grin:

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PC10 is one of those elusive colours
It covered dark green to dark brown/green
I have Xtra-wotsit paint PC10 but some times I use Humbrol 116 or 163 greens
Thus I'd say just use a good dark green

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Misterkit make it. Unfortunately Model Skills no longer stock it but do have some pots left of other colours
http://modelskills.co.uk/27-british
Akan also do it. AKAN PAINT SET 47007
There's a distributor in the UK.
http://www.coastalcraftmodelsuk.com/akan_paints.php
I look forward to seeing your build.
Not enough bipes are done here
This forum is very helpful for WW1 stuff if you haven't seen it already.
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php

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Thanks Chaps :)
I was thinking of adding a smidge of like Dark Earth to Dark Green see how that comes out.
I'm really a closet fan of ww1 planes and seem to have amassed quite a collection so far, but never tried a WNW kit so
I thought it about time.
Still doing my tests on the wood bits, but we should have kick off in a day or two

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Steve,

The WNW instructions give the Tamiya equivalents for all colors to be used, including PC-10, PC-12, and CDL. It is easy enough to vary them to taste.

I used to use Mr Kit until they became hard to find and my stock dried out, so I adapted to Tamiya. One of my purposes is to replicate ribs, stringers, and formers -- all the bumps & such under the fabric -- and I spray paint to do so.

Here is my method.
-- visible fuselage interior: prime with XF-55 to represent CDL.
-- all exterior fuselage, wings, tail, etc; prime with rattle-can TS-46 Light Sand.
-- mask the ribs, fuselage formers, with very thin tape -- 1/16 - 1/32 -- model car striping works well.
-- preshade lightly along the masked ribs/formers with a thinned X-9 Brown.
-- for CDL use XF-55, well thinned; add X-22 for gloss if desired, not as much as to the PC-10.
-- for PC-10, use a well-thinned mix of XF-62 with a hint of XF-9 "to taste"; further add X-22 to make it gloss.
-- for both PC-10 and CDL, spray several light thin coats on the appropriate surface; go for even coverage but not heavy.
.. then pull off the rib/former masking and spray a couple more light coats over everything.
On PC-10 surfaces, your goal is a faint tan rib "showing through".
On CDL surfaces your goal is a vaguely darker rib "showing through".

Check this out: viewtopic.php?f=354&t=14122

PC-10 and PC-12 are colors you cannot get wrong -- the fitter/rigger was handed a black bucket and a yellow bucket and told to make paint. Mix up a batch and lighten/darken to taste.

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Oh good grief...
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Thank you John for the reply, I completely overlooked the fact that they actually name the Tamiya paints in the paint chart....
OK then, They are suggesting Flat Brown and Olive Drab, duh... (told you I wasn't a wingy thing builder :) )
But thank you for those brilliant tips.

Thing that actually scares me about WNW kits is the fact that every single one you see on the intergoogle are absolute pieces of art... and I cant build to standards like that.
But hey, I build them for me to enjoy, not for what other people might think :)

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Oops ... Where I wrote XF-9 it should be X-9.
I use X-9 Brown as it is a gloss, see also the addition of X-22 to get a glossy finish.

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