Rob's Sea Harrier *finished*

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Rob's Sea Harrier *finished*

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I was completely determined not to get dragged into any new builds until I'd completed a good part of the bench queens, but I guess I'll just have to make an exception for a salute to Alan. This does mean I'm totally unprepared for this GB, and will have to make do with whatever the stash will supply, which leaves me with only a Hasegawa Sea Harrier:

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Box contents:

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Nothing spectacular or surprising I'm afraid, but I'll have to make do.

The kit includes decals for a machine from 899NAS aboard HMS Hermes in 1982. To the best of my limited knowledge, that would put it in the Falklands.

From my very brief reading on the subject matter, Sea Harriers from Hermes were at the very edge of their operational range, and mostly used for air defence. I'm fairly certain that would mean Sidewinders and fuel tanks under the wings, but what about the gun pods? Does anyone here know if they were carried?
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Great choice Rob. Will look forward to seeing this one completed as Iv'e not had the pleasure of building this kit.
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Great choice, Rob. I'm not sure about the ADEN gun pods but I vaguely recall something along the lines that the RN used ex-RAF pods? Hopefully someone with more knowledge will be able to help you out.
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I know that the particular Sea Harrier that I built previously used RAF gun pods still with the green camo, but don't know about other a/c.
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Airfix show them fitted in their sea harrier /skyhawk dogfight double. Not a definitive answer though.
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I've found information that a Pucara was shot down by cannon fire from a Sea Harrier. Can't do that unless the guns are fitted, so I guess that settles the loadout: Sidewinders outboard, fuel tanks inboard, and guns on the fuselage.
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The state of play at the point where I'm calling it quits for today:

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The cockpit module is a single piece. I have a much nicer resin ejection seat lying around, but to fit it would involve loss of the cockpit tub and a complete scratchbuild of the interior, which risks a DNF. The pilot figure isn't all that great either, but should be sufficient to create a busy interior and hide the lack of seat detail. As expected, instruments are provided as decals.

The main fuselage and the gun pod halves are joined. Fit is pretty good, but that won't prevent some work along the spine, and probably some panel line restoration, since the (otherwise lovely) very fine lines will probably be wiped out by the slightest sanding.

I've made a start at filling in the trenches of the Sidewinder locator tabs; they make it easy to get the missiles on correctly, but it never looks good to me, so I prefer filling them and lining up the missiles by hand.

This is one of those kits that's actually dirt cheap in it's home country; HLJ sells them for 720 yen, or just shy of 6 euro, in other words pocket money levels. Getting them half way across the planet adds obvious costs, but Japanese kids at least have access to good, affordable kits.
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That looks a great choice Rob, and a good-ish kit as well 👍
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Good start Rob. I have the Harrier GR.1 in the same series I believe and it is a nice, albeit basic, little kit. I'm hoping your build will inspire me to dig it out and get it finished.
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Great choice. Load out would be
AIM9L Sidewinders on the outer pylons
Fuel tanks on the inners.
30mm Gun pods under fuselage.

The 9Limas were acquired from USAF stocks at Asention Island.
Hope this helps.

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beany wrote: May 2nd, 2022, 11:54 amGood start Rob. I have the Harrier GR.1 in the same series I believe and it is a nice, albeit basic, little kit. I'm hoping your build will inspire me to dig it out and get it finished.
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Gregers wrote: May 2nd, 2022, 12:38 pm Great choice. Load out would be
AIM9L Sidewinders on the outer pylons
Fuel tanks on the inners.
30mm Gun pods under fuselage.

The 9Limas were acquired from USAF stocks at Asention Island.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for confirming the load out.
The 'new' AIM-9Ls got quite a bit of coverage over the years. Apparently, the difference between those and earlier marks was enough that they might well have been a completely different missile.
Sometimes I wonder who they think they're kidding, still calling the AIM-9X a Sidewinder, I doubt it has a single part in common with the AIM-9B ;-)
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rob_van_riel wrote: May 1st, 2022, 7:44 pm I've found information that a Pucara was shot down by cannon fire from a Sea Harrier. Can't do that unless the guns are fitted, so I guess that settles the loadout: Sidewinders outboard, fuel tanks inboard, and guns on the fuselage.
It's been ages since I've read any of the subject matter, but I think quite a few of the Harriers kills were courtesy of the Guns.

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Stuart wrote: May 4th, 2022, 5:44 pmIt's been ages since I've read any of the subject matter, but I think quite a few of the Harriers kills were courtesy of the Guns.
To be honest I stopped looking after the first confirmed gun kill; it only takes one instance to know that they were carried. And if they were carried.. well, after all the effort they invested in maintaining, cleaning and loading the guns it would be very ungratefull to the ground crews not to put them to good use :twisted:
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Just some small steps today. I've done some painting on the cockpit tub, and got the decals on. The decals are about twice as wide as the consoles in the plastic, so some trimming will have to be done after they've set and been treated with solvent. I failed to notice earlier that the back of the ejection seat is very visibly hollow, so I've started work on blocking that off.
I've mostly cleaned up the Sidewinders, but they'll need another pass. A small amount of filler along the spine of the fuselage is curing, and I got some painting done on the engine front and exhausts.
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